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Joy in Alabama
03-01-2013, 08:53 AM
Carrie needs one more physical science. I just don't want to do Apologia chemistry with her. Any ideas for me? Heather????

Susan Seaman
03-01-2013, 10:25 AM
So have you already done Apologia Physical Science?

If you don't want to do Chemistry because of all the math, then I certainly wouldn't do Physics instead.

Our co-op offers Earth Science for High School. I think they just beef it up quite a bit from the middle school course.

I have thought about coming up with an Environmental Science course. Seems like that is quite a practical thing in today's society, and there are certainly lots of labs you could do.

Laura JL
03-01-2013, 01:04 PM
I'm not sure if you are asking for courses in place of the typical Chemistry and Physics or a resource in place of Apologia Chemistry. If it's the first -- how about Astronomy, Geology or Oceanography? Those are all courses at most Univ. under Physical Sciences. If you're looking for resources -- Queen's Homeschool supply has a new Astronomy course they just released and like their other high school science courses it is based on a CM approach. WinterPromise did have a course in Environmental Science -- but I don't recall if it was high school level.

If you want a curriculum in place of Apologia - BJU is good, Spectrum Chemistry or our preference for high school science courses has been Prentice-Hall w/ labs obtained from other resources.

Joy in Alabama
03-01-2013, 05:56 PM
I'm not sure if you are asking for courses in place of the typical Chemistry and Physics or a resource in place of Apologia Chemistry. If it's the first -- how about Astronomy, Geology or Oceanography? Those are all courses at most Univ. under Physical Sciences. If you're looking for resources -- Queen's Homeschool supply has a new Astronomy course they just released and like their other high school science courses it is based on a CM approach. WinterPromise did have a course in Environmental Science -- but I don't recall if it was high school level.

If you want a curriculum in place of Apologia - BJU is good, Spectrum Chemistry or our preference for high school science courses has been Prentice-Hall w/ labs obtained from other resources.

Thanks, Laura. I'm sort of looking for both. If I need to do Chem, I don't want to slog through Apologia. It worked for a couple of my dds, won't work well for Carrie. I've been creative with life science and was hoping to do the same with physical.

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So have you already done Apologia Physical Science?

If you don't want to do Chemistry because of all the math, then I certainly wouldn't do Physics instead.

Our co-op offers Earth Science for High School. I think they just beef it up quite a bit from the middle school course.

I have thought about coming up with an Environmental Science course. Seems like that is quite a practical thing in today's society, and there are certainly lots of labs you could do.

Susan, could I give a credit for the physical science book? I have it, but I thought it was for 8th grade.

Thanks for all the other ideas! She might like oceanography, actually. Or an earth science.

CJ
03-01-2013, 08:15 PM
Switched on Schoolhouse and Lifepacs have a Physical Science. Not that you want to go that route, but just so you remember it's out there.
:)

Laura JL
03-02-2013, 08:36 AM
You might get some ideas from this group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LivingScience/

As for the Apologia Physical Science -- I have known people that used it for 9th grade credit for Physical Science.

I have a list of high school Environmental Science living books, movies, web-sites list that are for an AP course if you would like it just let me know.

Michelle Pfeifer
03-02-2013, 05:08 PM
I know my state would accept Physical Science as a high school course, even if it was taken in 8th grade. Not sure how that exactly works, but I have been told that from several different sources.

Michelle

Joy in Alabama
03-03-2013, 07:31 AM
Thanks, Michelle!

CINDY LB OH
03-03-2013, 09:47 AM
Apologia's physical science can be used for 9th grade, but maybe she had that already?

You could pick a topic from the physical science book and delve into it deeper. When I used the physical science book with my dd18, she didn't want to do the second half physics part. So we just did the first half which was mainly earth/environmental science and I added other books and Planet Earth dvds to it. On her transcript I think we called it environmental science.

Heather W
03-03-2013, 09:53 AM
I would think you could use the Apologia Physical Science for a high school credit. If you feel it needs more, then add related books and assignments to the topics.

When I was in high school, the typical track was: 9th grade physical science, 10th grade biology, 11th grade chemistry, 12th grade second year chem, bio, or physics or some combo. I took Biology II and Chemistry II my senior year.

Physical Science is usually half chemistry and half physics if you want to consider what makes up a course called Physical Science.

If I were to make up a course for Physical Science I might include the following:

chemistry- intro to chemistry, basic atomic structure, and if she really isn't a chemistry person I would do applied/practical chemistry. In our high school we had this class called "Chem Com" which was sort of like a consumer chemistry.
physics- laws of motion, simple machines, basic theories related to how things behave in the universe
astronomy- actually considered a branch of earth science but certainly would qualify for a non-living science
earth science- which could encompass the normal basics of geology and formations, oceanography and environment as Susan suggested



You could go with the four disciplines and make each last a quarter long. Choose topics you want to hit on during each discipline/quarter and design readings, labs, and projects for each one.

As for recording whatever you choose, in NY I have to do a lot of reporting but at the end of a year of high school I simply put the course name and the grade. All the evidence of what's been going on is placed in the quarterly reports. So, I would just list: Physical Science Grade: ____. The plan I turn in for the year tells what materials I'm using and that gets approved ahead of time. The quarterly reports (think reports cards four times a year plus a year end assessment which is narrative or a standardized test) tell the story in between.

In other words, I name the class and put the grade. As long as my student meets the credit requirement I'm good. So, you just want to be sure the work she does is consistent and isn't finished in five minutes a day.

I hope that helps.

Right now we are doing chemistry and have made the decision to just use a free text on Amazon. It's called CK 12 Chemistry. They have free texts for the other courses as well. They are high school level.

I think you could put together something really nice Joy. If you need resource ideas, let me know.

CINDY LB OH
03-03-2013, 09:54 AM
You might get some ideas from this group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LivingScience/

As for the Apologia Physical Science -- I have known people that used it for 9th grade credit for Physical Science.

I have a list of high school Environmental Science living books, movies, web-sites list that are for an AP course if you would like it just let me know.
Laura-- I am interested in your environmental science list for my ds14. Thanks.

Heather W
03-03-2013, 10:03 AM
Laura I'm interested too!

CINDY LB OH
03-03-2013, 10:40 AM
Heather-- You peaked my interest with Consumer Chemistry.

I found this Consumer Chemistry course outline. (http://www.chymist.com/Consumer%20chemistry.html) It's a college course but could be done over an entire year for high school credit. It even has a full syllabus.

Heather W
03-03-2013, 11:11 AM
Heather-- You peaked my interest with Consumer Chemistry.

I found this Consumer Chemistry course outline. (http://www.chymist.com/Consumer%20chemistry.html) It's a college course but could be done over an entire year for high school credit. It even has a full syllabus.

Nice...I'll check it out!

Joy in Alabama
03-03-2013, 01:45 PM
Thanks a bunch, Heather. Great ideas, as usual!

Heather W
03-03-2013, 02:21 PM
So this is very cool! http://www.ck12.org/student/

Check it out- free text books and lab manuals. Basically open source texts and manuals for many subjects. It requires a log in, but it uses a google ID so you if you already have a google account, it will just verify you and put you back on the page.

There are videos and all kinds of resources on here. The text for chemistry I have on my kindle.

They don't have physical science filled in yet, but they have other disciplines you can pick and choose from.

Heather W
03-03-2013, 02:28 PM
http://bit.ly/100m0NC

Here's a sample of the section on atoms in chemistry. :)

shonda in ca
03-04-2013, 12:45 AM
I e-mailed ck-12 to Corry! Thanks! It looks really cool.

Laura JL
03-05-2013, 10:42 AM
This is what I have from - I took it from a yahoo group:
1. Silent Spring (1962) Rachel Carson
Read Chapter 10 titled “Indiscriminately from the Skies”, p.154-172.

1a. Describe in a paragraph what the Department of Agriculture decided to do
regarding invasive species in the 1950’s. How successful were they?
1b. Cite three specific examples of the Dept. of Agriculture ignoring evidence
from scientists and the public regarding their invasive species initiatives
including the effects/results of their decisions.

2. The Quiet Crisis (1963) Stewart L. Udall
Read Chapters 12 and 13 titled “Cities in Trouble” and “Conservation of the
Future”, p.159-187.

2a. Who is Frederick Law Olmstead? Describe in a paragraph his contributions
and achievements related to New York City. (Ch.12)
2b. List and describe at least three tools Udall uses as examples of government
entities encouraging the preservation of open space. (Ch.12)
2c. What is the quiet crisis? (Ch.13 p.180ish) What is Udall’s belief about how
U.S. citizens view the role of science and technology in the conservation of
resources?

3. A Sand County Almanac Aldo Leopold
Read about the Flambeau River in Wisconsin and “Wilderness” on P.112-116 and
P.188-201.

3a. Why did Leopold include this particular section as part of his attempt to
educate based on his own experience in “Part II: Sketches Here and There”? What
was he trying to show the reader?
3b. Summarize in a paragraph Leopold’s stance on the term “wilderness”.

4. The Worst Hard Time (2006) Timothy Egan
Read the Introduction, Black Sunday and Verdict, p. 1-10, 198-221 and 265-272.

4. Summarize in two paragraphs how the actions/inactions of the farmers,
politicians, media, etc. helped to bring about the “Black Sunday” dust storm and
what lessons could be learned from this experience.

5. Collapse (2005) Jared Diamond
Read the Prologue and the Tikopia Island case study on p. 1-23 and 286-293.

5a. Summarize in a paragraph Diamond’s five-point plan for addressing the issue
of societal rise and decline.
5b. Why did Diamond reflect upon the Tikopia case- what can we learn from them?
Include at least three specific points/examples.

Videos and Books only:

Agriculture/Pesticides:
Videos:
The Future of Food
runners up:
Food, Inc. (great but too much shocker agro-porn),
King Corn (good story, great focus on corn/HFCS, light on facts),
Super Size Me (the extras i.e. McD's fries that do not decompose by 10 weeks are
great)
The Meatrix:
http://www.themeatrix.com/

Books:
Silent Spring by Carson
Fast Food Nation by Schlosser
The Worst Hard Time by Egan
Articles:
Time Magazine's "Getting Real About the High Price of Cheap Food":
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1917458,00.html

Water:
Videos:
Flow
Selected portions of Planet Earth and Blue Planet
The Story of Bottled Water:http://www.storyofstuff.com/
The New York Times' Toxic Waters series esp. this one on dairy farm runoff
(scroll for video):
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/us/18dairy.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&ref=earth&adxnnl\
x=1254420163-P3KPN6qt4R1hscleiKv8Zg
Books:
Cadillac Desert by Reisner
Blue Gold by Barlow
Blue Covenant by Barlow
Unquenchable by Glennon
Water by deVilliers
Water by Solomon
Articles:
Scientific American's Earth 3.0 Sep. 2008 issue on the vicious cycle of energy
vs. water: (need subscription)
http://www.scientificamerican.com/report.cfm?id=earth3

Energy/Air Pollution:
Films:
Who Killed the Electric Car?
Modern Marvels: Renewable Energy
Heat on Frontline:http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/heat/view/
Clean Coal: Myth of Reality? on fora.tv esp. Ch.2-5:
http://fora.tv/2009/04/28/Clean_Coal_Myth_or_Reality
Books:
Hot, Flat and Crowded by Friedman
Storm World by Mooney
Articles:
Seven Ways Microbes May Solve Our Energy Woes:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34213126/ns/technology_and_science-future_of_energy/

Waste/Toxins:
Videos:
Trashed
"The Dangers of Plastic" by Charles Moore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Nn-mUfSBU
The Story of Stuff:http://www.storyofstuff.com/
Books:
The Dirty Dozen by Johansen

Invasive Species:
Videos:
Cane Toads (if your students do not "get" the humor, it won't go over so well
but my students said they used it the most out of all the films/books for their
FRQ's and are so obsessed they are watching for the latest Cane Toads sequel
details- it premiered at Sundance)
Selected portions of Planet Earth and Blue Planet
Books:
Unnatural Landscapes by Terrill

Affluenza/Sustainability/Populations/Looking ahead:
Videos:
"New Green Building Practices in China" Chapters 4+5 on Shanghai Tower:
http://fora.tv/2009/05/01/New_Green_Building_Practices_in_China#fullprogram
The Story of Stuff:http://www.storyofstuff.com/
"The Wisdom of Designing Cradle to Cradle" William McDonough:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoRjz8iTVoo
Hans Rosling showing connections using Gapminder, an excellent web site to make
a data-driven populations
lab:http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen .\
html
Online tools:
People and Planet:http://www.peopleandplanet.net/
Gapminder:http://www.gapminder.org
Breathing Earth:http://www.breathingearth.net/
Books:
A Sand County Almanac by Leopold
Cradle to Cradle by McDonough and Braungart
The Post-American World by Zakaria
Collapse by Diamond

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For DD I used some of the above ideas when she did Physical Science. For middle DS instead of creating my own -- he's using Prentice Hall Physical Science textbook and we're using Parables of Nature that is available on Queen's Homeschool site. It covers a good bit of Physical Science w/ a little Bio/Life Science thrown in. He's not fond of the "stories" portion, but he's really enjoyed the weekly work of digging in to research various areas covered. He's not a kid that likes writing and I really didn't know how he'd do w/ the layout, but he's surprised me.

laurie in ok
03-10-2013, 12:23 PM
Heather - that link looks awesome!

Heather W
03-11-2013, 05:58 PM
Heather - that link looks awesome!

We've been using it for our 14yo. They have a lab book,videos, the works. It's well done. My husband likes it a lot- great text and information and it's all free.