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Christi GA
08-29-2013, 06:45 PM
if we wanted to do some unit studies or delight-directed learning or just reading from lists ( such as Ambleside) ? I'm thinking that the strictly textbook approach is not going to work for my oldest. This is her 8th grade yr and she wanted to do some textbooks this year. I chose Christian Liberty Press for Civics/Govt. They are not long texts, just good intro in my opinion. But, it's a flop! She doesn't get the complicated wording, I guess. And Abeka Science, as Apologia was a flop for her last year. She'd rather just read. And I don't think that's bad. I also don't have an issue with using a reading list, such as Ambleside and going from there if that's what works. Or continuing in unit studes....

I need help..before next year gets here..and to hopefully salvage this year's efforts!!

CINDY LB OH
08-29-2013, 08:44 PM
To do unit studies for high school, they suggest counting hours. So 120 hrs. or so would be a 1 credit course.

You said she would rather just read, but you also said that reading textbooks didn't work. So I'm a little confused. Does she like a very hands-on curriculum or does she simply not like to read non-fiction? Is it not so much the complicated wording as it might be boredom with the textbook? Even if you go with Ambleside, which would be fine, they do recommend Apologia science + other living books to go with it. I'm not sure if just reading the living books for science would be enough for high school because you do need some lab work in there somewhere.

We do use Apologia for science and it is a bit of a rough transition when they aren't familiar with textbooks. I have always done the first one as a read aloud with them so we can discuss it and enjoy it together. After that, they've all been very good with it.

There is one science unit study I know of called Botany Adventure by Kym Wright (http://www.christianbook.com/botany-adventure-2nd-edition-kym-wright/9781427620736/pd/259005). The description looks fabulous and it looks like it would count as a lab science. Rather than a textbook the student does all their own research in order to answer the given questions. I'm not sure if that's something that would interest you or not.

I don't see a problem with using Ambleside as long as the student puts in the hours of time and it's high school level material. When my girls did high school history, I had them keep notebooks of what they were learning from their reading. They had to include summaries, pictures, maps, etc., whatever they spent time learning. That's what I used for their grade rather than tests.

You can also look at Harmony Art Mom's blog for her high school posts (http://harmonyfinearts.org/category/apologia-science/). She talks about how she chose to keep the Charlotte Mason approach all through high school and she gives lots of links to the courses they did. They still used textbooks as a reference though, but they weren't the focus. It's hard to get a good balance of both but she gives lots of great advice. She used a variety of things. I love her approach.

CINDY LB OH
08-29-2013, 09:02 PM
Oh, I almost forgot. There are The Story of Science books by Joy Hakim. (http://www.amazon.com/The-Story-Science-Aristotle-Leads/dp/1588341607/ref=pd_sim_b_5) I noticed one review says for Grade 8 and above, while another review says Grades 5 -8. Either way, it should work for 8th grade. :) Currently she has a 3 book set that covers physical science only. I would think you could beef it up for high school, and use a text book for reference to go deeper on concepts if needed.

Since she likes to read, she may like these books a lot. I have one on hold at the library right now waiting for me to pick it up. I can't wait to look at it since we are doing Physical Science this year.

There is also the Beautiful Feet study guide, The History of Science (http://bfbooks.com/History-of-Science-Study-Guide?sc=21&category=-121). It's recommended for grades 3-6, but it could work for 8th grade if you beef it up with added library texts and on your own research.

WendyW
08-29-2013, 10:31 PM
The book "Senior High: A Home Designed Form+U+La" (http://www.rainbowresource.com/product/sku/000282/f959b785cf0544bf7da20448) has lots of info about figuring credits from unconventional teaching methods. The author is apparently ADD, though, and the writing is all over the place. Not to be read in one sitting or it will drive you nuts, but a great reference when taken in small bites.

Christi GA
08-30-2013, 08:50 AM
Thanks so much!

I see how my comments were confusing. She likes to read--nonfiction and fiction. I guess if she's enjoying it, that's her motivation to work through the hard stuff. Textbooks, not so much. But I had no idea how to give credit in any other way. She's taking a French class this yr at a co-op, that she'll hopefully get credit for when she completes. But I'm not sure that will happen. Textbooks come across as "complicated and hard" to her, but she loves the idea of them! LOL

Science is not her strong suite and living books would be fine...we do dissection anyway (a.k.a. butchering) so I'm not worried about a lab, per se. Thanks for your ideas, Cindy. I think she'd do great if she mapped/summarized/drew what she was reading about. She doesn't mind writing narrations, either.

I'm gonna go check out some of those links/books. Thanks so much!

Paige P
09-03-2013, 09:44 AM
Christi, you may want to check out https://www.queenshomeschooling.com/ I've used some of their elementary works and have ordered some of their living books. They're definitely Charlotte Mason-y, and they have a whole high school section. I can't vouch for any of it, and haven't even investigated it, but it might be something your dd will like :)