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Hope
09-29-2009, 10:00 AM
I have posted in the past about comprehension, but for some reason I can't find the thread to read the responses. I thought I'd try again.

My dd seems to have issues with comprehension. Lately I have noticed some things that alarm me. Here is an example of what I'm dealing with:

The directions in dd's English workbook told her to list all the personal pronouns in the literature passage and then circle all the possessive pronouns. She said she didn't get it. It told her to read it slowly so she can understand what was expected. She still didn't get it. It wasn't until I real it slowly aloud numerous times that she seemed to understand.

Another example: I bought "McCall-Crabbs Standard Test Lessons in Reading" because it is supposed to help with comprehension. The child is to read the passage and answer 10 comprehension questions. They are to do as much as possible in 3 minutes. I had her read a very short, simple passage and answer the questions. Here is the passage so you know what it is:

We grow in the springtime.
We grow in the marshes.
We come before the flowers come.
We sit in rows on long branches.
We are gray and soft.
Our coats are like fur,
Soft and gray like a kitten.
All the children love us.
Now, tell us who we are!

1. We grow in the (a) summer (b) autumn (c) winter (d) springtime

2. We are (a) white (b) gray (c) brown (d) black

3. We come before the (a) rain (b) wind (c) snow (d) flowers

etc. . .

Dd got every question wrong and her score showed she placed at the 2.7 grade level. :eek: I talked to her beforehand about skimming the passage to look for answers, but she still missed all the questions.

I pretty much have to sit with her and explain the directions to most of her schoolwork. I have been trying to get her to be more independent, but we're not there yet. Have any of you had to deal with this sort of thing? What did you do?

I need some suggestions.

Alice R
09-29-2009, 10:42 AM
I don't know from a parent's perspective.

My husband has these kinds of issues. He has Central Auditory Processing problems and I assume there is some type of reading processing issue also. He reads things and then says "what did that just say?". He says he reads it but it "doesn't go in" and he has no idea what he just read.

Since he was dx-ed with the CAPD, he understands himself much better now. He knows that he can't just 'read' and has to READ and constantly check himself. But my husband was dx-ed as an adult. When he was in school, his grades suffered terribly. My husband is quite bright but no one ever diagnosed him or helped him. (nice public school system). He is the one who is ADAMENT that the kids be HSed because he felt he got totally overlooked.

I don't know exactly what is going on but I would keep at it until I got an anwer. Poor reading comprehension will affect every area of her life...you use reading for EVERYTHING.

Hope
09-29-2009, 11:23 AM
Alice, does your husband read books for pleasure? If so, does he remember what he reads from them?

Dd will read books and sometimes tell me about a part she found interesting. So, to some degree I know she has a little comprehension. But still, I'm at a loss as to where I should go from here.

DawnD
09-29-2009, 03:16 PM
My son does this. I have assumed he has auditory processing problems. He hasn't been diagnosed by someone who does this sort of thing. All I have done it to have him narrated readings - short ones. And try to increase. He still does poorly with something that has a lot of information in it or is long. He does well now with short stories that are interesting to him. There have been LOTS of times I've just wanted to bang my head against the wall - it is so frustrating. You think they aren't listening to you! The worse his allergies are the worse he does.

That isn't much help, just btdt.

Alice R
09-29-2009, 09:30 PM
Alice, does your husband read books for pleasure? If so, does he remember what he reads from them?

Dd will read books and sometimes tell me about a part she found interesting. So, to some degree I know she has a little comprehension. But still, I'm at a loss as to where I should go from here.

Nope, he hates reading and will not read for pleasure because reading is not a pleasure for him. :lol: It is a chore.

He says it is too effortfull to remember everything and he looses things easily that he has read.

I would think a reading specialist? Something is off with processing. I'm a SLP and reading is not my area but speech-language processing (auditory processing) and reading processing (visual processing) are connected. I think the word you are looking for is "processing". You can be an A+ reader but not know a thing that you have just read.

Joe reads things and is like "what was that?". He looses plots easily in reading also. He also has trouble with things like "find the main topic of the paragraph".

It is a terrible thing because as we all know, reading is learning and reading is the main modality of your education.

I can tell you that if read this to my husband, he'd recommend running to get help. His whole life was affected by this and it was never diagnosed until he was an adult. He assumed he was stupid and struggled in school. I mean, his skills naturally improved as he got older but school was hard for him. He is also excellent with numbers. Joe was a CPA before he switched to OT. Numbers are easy for him. It still bothers Joe. I get all these new books that are on our favorite topic (politics) and he says "oh excellent, read it and tell me what it says". And I do. :lol: But you can see the desire is there but it's just too hard. No one likes to do something that is so hard and challenging...

I don't know where to get a reading specialist. Maybe a university?

LindainOK
09-29-2009, 11:56 PM
Did you know that you are supposed to first teach the methods to use the McCall/Crabs? Make photocopies of the pages, have on hand several pencil colors, read the passage together, find answer together, underline the answer where it is found in the passage, then (using the same colored pencil) circle the correct answer in the questions below. Using a new pencil color, repeat procedure for next question. Do this skill once a week with a new passage each time, then after several weeks, begin giving the passages as tests, starting with the first one you did together.

It is amazing to me what my talented, dependable, sweet 11.9yr old dau CAN'T figure out. It's like I have to walk her thru new tasks/skills a time or two until she "gets" it. I am simply assuming too much some times.

Hope
09-30-2009, 10:40 AM
Did you know that you are supposed to first teach the methods to use the McCall/Crabs? Make photocopies of the pages, have on hand several pencil colors, read the passage together, find answer together, underline the answer where it is found in the passage, then (using the same colored pencil) circle the correct answer in the questions below. Using a new pencil color, repeat procedure for next question. Do this skill once a week with a new passage each time, then after several weeks, begin giving the passages as tests, starting with the first one you did together.

It is amazing to me what my talented, dependable, sweet 11.9yr old dau CAN'T figure out. It's like I have to walk her thru new tasks/skills a time or two until she "gets" it. I am simply assuming too much some times.

Nope, I didn't know that. I read that this was a very good curriculum to use for comprehension and I ordered the book that has all 5 levels in it. It came with directions, but does not say anything about the procedure you listed above. All it tells me to do is have the student read the passage and answer the questions in 3 minutes. This is to be done 2-3 times a week.

Do you know where I can get a copy of the expanded directions you talk about?

Your post encouraged me, Linda.

LindainOK
09-30-2009, 08:14 PM
Years ago, I took extensive Spalding Phonics training and that's how I was taught to use the McCall Crabs books. I took volumes of notes, but don't remember a published list of instructions (what I wrote in my earlier post).

If it would help you, we can talk by phone. Just send me an email or a private message.