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Negin
11-30-2009, 12:55 AM
I don't know if it's appropriate to post here :unsure:. Moderators, please delete if needs be.

I have posted several times before and you ladies have been an amazing help. :kiss:
Ds is doing well with Writing with Ease (http://www.welltrainedmind.com/store/language-arts/writing.html)
and dd is almost done with Writing Tales (http://www.writing-tales.com/)- we have been skipping some parts. Unfortunately, there are no further levels yet.
So now that she's almost done, I'm a bit overwhelmed as to where to go next.
I like programs that preferably:

Go up to to 12th grade or at least close to it. As Nancy Ann said it so well on this previous thread (http://www.fiarhq.com/~gbprnhrz/forum/showthread.php?t=66500), writing is a subject very much like math that very gradually builds skills little by little. I agree with her when she says that she would prefer to avoid jumping around to different curriculums and doing different techniques and levels.
Less teacher-intensive and more student-led. I do not want to reinvent the wheel.


So here is what I have come up with so far. ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Apologia Jump In (http://www.highschoolscience.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=34)
An open-and-go sort of program.
Workbook type of program, which, I do like.
For 5th-8th grades, junior high, or even high school
Appealing to reluctant writers
Incremental approach
Covers all types of writing – including essays and research papers
Student learns a little each day by doing a "skill"
Breaking down into steps – easy to use
Student-led – instructions are simple enough for student to read on own
Very little teaching required other than answering a few questions and checking work - which I really like.

Meaningful Composition (http://www.tfths.com/comp.php)
Pros:
Very thorough and sequential. Very organized.
Goes all the way up through the higher grades. :clap:
Cons:
Apparently, and I could be wrong here, the parent needs to be quite involved, and at some higher stages, very involved. Parent needs to be an active participant.

Teaching the Essay and Research Paper (http://www.analyticalgrammar.com/teaching-the-essay)
I only just came across this program on these boards.
I like the fact she walks you through writing a 5-paragraph essay. This program really helps with SAT preparation, so maybe it's too soon for my 11 year old dd? :unsure:
It seems to be simple. No editing and rewriting for days on end, which my dc loathe. :eek:
Seems to be a very organized program.
Maybe this program would be good after Jump In? I'm confused as to when to start this. :unsure:
ETA: Just saw Cathy Duffy's review (http://cathyduffyreviews.com/grammar-composition/analytical-grammar.htm) of this - scroll down to the bottom of the page. Homeschoolreviews.com (http://www.homeschoolreviews.com/reviews/curriculum/default.aspx?id=92) does not have any reviews yet. I wish it did.
Also, I wonder if Analytical Grammar or Junior Analytical Grammar are worth getting. They are quite costly. Analytical Grammar is almost $100 and that, to me, is a bit too costly for a grammar program.

Would appreciate any feedback, since I really don't know where to go from here with dd.

WendyW
11-30-2009, 08:53 AM
We're using Jump In! this year and last. I am very happy with it, and my writing-hating son is even enjoying it. It really isn't teacher-intensive. It only requires the teacher to grade the papers and offer advice, not actively teach it.

But if you are looking for something to last all the years from now through high school this isn't it. It is designed to last for two years. You COULD repeat it and grade their work with higher standards the second time around. The assignments are creative enough that it would be interesting to see the progress over time.

Negin
12-02-2009, 12:54 AM
We're using Jump In! this year and last. I am very happy with it, and my writing-hating son is even enjoying it. It really isn't teacher-intensive. It only requires the teacher to grade the papers and offer advice, not actively teach it.
But if you are looking for something to last all the years from now through high school this isn't it. It is designed to last for two years. You COULD repeat it and grade their work with higher standards the second time around. The assignments are creative enough that it would be interesting to see the progress over time.

Wendy, thank you for your helpful feedback :group:. I like your idea of perhaps repeating it for extra reinforcement. After consulting with dh, we decided to go with Jump In. Once that's done, in about 2 years or so, to then possibly start with Teaching the Essay and Research Paper.

Ernestine
12-09-2009, 09:51 PM
Format Writing is excellent.

Negin
12-10-2009, 02:59 AM
Format Writing is excellent.

Ernestine, I have heard this before. In fact, I did some research on this a while back, but if I remember correctly, it's more geared for slightly older students :unsure:.
Here are some reviews that I read about this program. If you have more to say, do please share. :)

* It teaches writing methodically, is progressive, and very thorough. It teaches from writing sentences to 1000 word papers.
* The explanations and examples make sense and are easy to follow.
* There is some grading involved.
* Each section has plenty of examples and suggestions of topics to use for writing, helpful for those who don't know where to start.
* It covers every topic from paragraphs through essays, book reports and research papers.

When my dd gets older, I am undecided whether to use this or Teaching the Essay and Research Paper.