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DawnD
03-23-2011, 09:26 AM
My son was just tested for learning disabilities and came up having severe auditory processing disorder. The pshychologist says that his IQ tested low and his school skills were quite a bit higher than that. She thinks his IQ tested low because of the APD and that it isn't a true reading. She also said if he had been in public school his school skills wouldn't have been nearly so high (yeah homeschooling!!!) He has had major problems with school since we began in K and I'm not surprised about this, but I don't know what to do.
First it was suggested that he be tested by an audiologist who specializes in APD to get more specifics on his particular problem. Then private tutoring with a specialist for this is also recommended.
Does anyone have a child with this? Can you tell me if this is how it went when your child was diagnosed?
Also, what has been the most helpful thing for teaching this child?
All of these things mentioned are extremely expensive you might know, and money is extremely tight right now. But then I want to do what he needs.
Any info or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks

DawnD
03-25-2011, 11:08 AM
So, I'm assuming no one out there has a child with auditory processing disorder then?

JennyO
03-25-2011, 01:39 PM
Hi:hi:

Our five year old son has Sensory Processing Disorder and struggles with some auditory issues. I am not for sure if that is the exact same thing you are referring too. I am rather new to this as well. Our son has been seeing an OT for the last seven months. I would think that this might be a good place to start for you. Do you have an OT in your area to evaluate and work with your son? If you can get an evaluation and a "diagnoses" for your child, I do believe that insurance is much more apt to pay for therapy.

I hope and pray you find what you need! Keep us posted!:group:

DawnD
03-25-2011, 01:52 PM
To get that diagnosis I need to go to an audiologist. The nearest one is 4 hours away with a 4 month wait time for an appt. No telling what it will cost.

I wondered what homeschool type things could be done to help him with his school work.

JennyO
03-25-2011, 02:07 PM
Well...google can probably be your best friend right now!:lol: I would just start googling to see what books, information and mom blogs might be able to help you. I completely understand this, especially with our oldest special needs child. I am sorry about the distance and wait for your son:sad: But, you can be educating yourself and learning to be his advocate (I am sure you already are!;)) And I have learned repeatedly...moms do know best!

Shannon P
03-25-2011, 02:24 PM
It will take more than one evaluation with an audiologist. First they will have to rule out hearing loss, then they can move on to evaluate for APD. It is too much testing for a single session, though an older child they might be able to work twice in one day.:unsure:

Is the audiologist that is 4 hours away the closest audiologist with APD experience, or are they the closest audiologist at all?

DawnD
03-25-2011, 02:59 PM
Oh no!!! Go back more than once!!!????

That is the closest audiologist that tests for APD.

Shannon P
03-25-2011, 05:49 PM
The hearing evaluation is a necessary part of the process. Even a mild hearing loss can produce signs of APD, and a mild hearing loss will not be caught by a hearing screening. APD is specifically defined as those signs occurring in the absence of hearing loss (normal hearing) so that has to be determined.

Perhaps the hearing evaluation could be done quickly and then the APD evaluation afterward, with a break in between. That would depend on your child. Or perhaps you can do a hearing evaluation with a closer audiologist and forward those results to the APD audiologist. Looking at your sig line, I'm assuming this is an 11 or 12yo, so it wouldn't be necessary to have a pediatric audiologist (though some audiologists are not licensed to test children.)

Talk to the APD audiologist and see what needs to be done and what your options are.

If your insurance doesn't cover the testing, you might consider approaching the school system. I know it's opening a can of worms, but they have to test students for things like this. You can always simply decline to enroll him, knowing that he may forfeit services. It would be helpful for you to know what special procedures there are, if any, for special needs homeschoolers in your state.

Nancy F in CA
03-26-2011, 04:39 PM
My youngest dd had APD. We did go the route of remediation therapy which is a computer program called Fast Forword. It was used in conjunction with the audiologists and educational therapists. I was lucky that they knew me and I was able to run the program with her. It is very time intensive and expensive, but I did save $$$ doing it myself. It also used to only run on a Mac computer as they have a specific sound card.
I know there is another program out there that is much more inexpensive and you can just buy it. I just need to remember the name of it. It was used by the public schools in CA and is not as good as Fast Forword, but it might be able to help you.
Let me rack my brains and see what I can come up. It has been a long time as my dd is now 17. She is doing amazingly well and I am glad I caught all her issues at a fairly young age.
Will post back when I can remember the name of the program. :group:

DawnD
03-26-2011, 05:37 PM
Yes, if you do remember that program, please let me know.

Expensive and time consuming - yikes!!!

Nancy F in CA
03-27-2011, 01:31 PM
The one that the public schools here in CA have used in the past (not sure if they still do) is Earobics. I believe it is fairly inexpensive, but really don't know much about it.
Fast Forword REALLY made a difference in my dd's life, but it was expensive and time consuming. Most of the time it is administered by a therapist or professional. I was lucky enough to know our educational therapists very well and had worked with them for years so they knew I could administer it.
I think if $ is a big factor, it would not hurt to look into Earobics and get as much info as you can online.
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shonda in ca
03-27-2011, 05:37 PM
For cheap and easy, I like Earobics. For time consuming and expensive, ( :lol: ) I like listening therapies such as Therapeutic Listening which we used through our occupational therapist.

WendyW
03-27-2011, 06:23 PM
Little Giant Steps (http://www.littlegiantsteps.com/) has a lot of info on LD's including APD. Go the the resources tab, and read through the appropriate articles and other info.

Katherine in CA
03-29-2011, 06:03 PM
Hi, Dawn! :hi:

My now-adult dd was diagnosed with Auditory Processing Disorders at the age of 10. We were blessed to live near a university that has its own language/speech department that offered very reasonable testing. In fact, at the time we were able to take part in a grad student's thesis program and received all of her testing free of charge.

Is there a university near you that has an similar audiology department? Just a thought.

For remedial therapies, we were blessed again through a friend who had just undergone training with Lindamood-Bell and needed a 'guinea pig' student, so that was free of charge for us too. The therapy made so much difference for my dd!

http://www.lindamoodbell.com/

(She also was diagnosed with visual processing disorders and received therapies from a behavioral/developmental optometrist.)

I think if we were to do it over again, knowing what I now know, I'd choose a Neurodevelopmentalist to address all of the L/D issues at once. Here's a link, just FYI:

http://www.ican-do.net/links.htm

HTH!

Leslie Nelsen
04-05-2011, 12:22 AM
Hi Dawn,

I'm just seeing this too. :group: It's hard having a dx and then trying to figure out where to go with it, isn't it? One of my boys has APD (along with ADHD and several learning disabilities). We saw an audiologist who did the hearing screening and the testing for APD in one visit. I would hope given your driving distance that you could ask for this to be done in one visit. :group:

We are seeing a Speech therapist trained to help with APD. She is using Lindamoodbell (sp) and other things with him. He is making great progress this year and she believes he may soon be "done" with this therapy! I have also used the Listening Program at home, though not sure how much this helped. Some of the reading I've done has been on "right-brained" learners and that has helped with strategies and approaches to teaching him. Do you want titles? (Sorry I can't remember them off the top of my head.)

:group: Hugs to you. I remember how hard it has been for me to know what to do. Praying for wisdom for you as you seek answers and a great plan for your son!

ETA: Perhaps you could meet with a therapist or specialist and ask if they would help set up a plan for you to do at home with your son. I know of others who have done this, especially if they are some distance from the practioner. :group:

HeatherS
04-05-2011, 07:58 AM
Dawn, what are your son's symptoms?

DawnD
04-05-2011, 11:55 AM
His symptoms...wow...where to start. He has terrible trouble with any directions - verbal, written, anything. A workbooks is a nightmere with him. Although he has improved over several years ago. He has terrible trouble with math - he always has. We have progressed though, but he will take forever to catch on to one new thing. Just when you think he's got multiplying fractions, he totally can't do it as though it were completely new again. He has a terrible time with reading comprehension(although again with lots of work, this has improved quite a bit). Books that are informational with new material are much harder than a story. He can read fairly well, but has a hard time with longer words. He can barely write anything - as in come up with what to write on the paper. His physical act of writing is stilted, slow, and looks about like it did years ago when he learned how to write his letters. Often he can tell me what the story was in pretty good detail (which has only come from years of practice at this) but then when I ask him to write some of what he just told me, he can't write a sentence.

He has small interests - always has been totally focused on trucks and tractors since a small boy. He speaking to others isn't always quite right. Like he can't get things out very clearly. Seems sort of odd sometimes, and I'm sure others don't know how to follow him often. He isn't shy though and is sociable anyway.

I was told his auditory intaking has been so hampered that his speaking is coming out a bit mixed as well. For instance, in the IQ part of testing he was asked "what is a bicycle?" He talked all around the answer without really saying it was something you ride to get around. So then he didn't get credit for the answer. It was as though he knows, but can't quite get it out conscisely.

He has always been physically clumsy as well.

I don't know if that's everything, but it is most of it. He is 12 and in 6th grade this year. He is reading on a 4th -sometimes 5th grade level (but things like science is about 3rd -4th grade), he is doing 5th grade math - fractions and will be on this level for a long time. He can add and subtract with counting dots on numbers, and he has memorized his multiplication facts thanks to Dianne Craft multiplication story cards.

That's all for now - long I know.

Bek from Aus
05-25-2011, 07:44 AM
Hi Dawn,

I know this is an old post but I was reading through it as I have a 6 year old with suspected APD. With the symptoms you have described, I was wondering if you had looked at Expressive Language Disorder. I have been reading about it in regards to my son, haven't done any testing as yet, but your son's symptoms seemed to fit what I have been reading.

Bek.

Alice R
05-25-2011, 09:43 AM
I just read a new book about APD and Rosie O'Donell contributed.

I'm trying to think of the name. I thought it was informative and nice insight.

Lisa in Virginia
05-25-2011, 10:20 AM
My 8 year old son was just diagnosed with APD. It has been a very frustrating year to say the least. Anyway, the audiologist recommended two programs. One is Earobics and the other is Hearbuilders. I was googling both for recommendations and I was leaning towards Hearbuilders.

I am also reading the book When The Brain Can't Hear by Teri James Bellis. I am just trying to understand what is going on with him.

Very frustrating disorder to deal with so far. I also think he has dyslexia which he is getting tested for next month.

Lisa in Virginia
05-25-2011, 10:22 AM
I was told his auditory intaking has been so hampered that his speaking is coming out a bit mixed as well. For instance, in the IQ part of testing he was asked "what is a bicycle?" He talked all around the answer without really saying it was something you ride to get around. So then he didn't get credit for the answer. It was as though he knows, but can't quite get it out conscisely.



That's all for now - long I know.

In the above book I just mentioned, she talks about this a couple of times. It might be good for you to read just so you know you are not alone and he is not alone in dealing with this.

Alice R
05-25-2011, 10:35 AM
I've mentioned this before but not on this particular thread but my husband has APD and has two college degrees.

He does get mixed up a lot though. :lol:

And he had no dx until he was in college and no remediation at all and he did OK.

Alice R
05-25-2011, 10:40 AM
http://www.additudemag.com/adhdblogs/4/7313.html

A speech pathologist and Rosie wrote this book. Not a fan of Rosie however, I give her credit for speaking up and bringing attention to this.

DawnD
05-25-2011, 01:42 PM
Alice, That is really encouraging to me about your husband. I get to thinking there is no way he will go to college, but I'm selling him short if we don't go to his full abilities.

Lisa and Alice, I will check out those books - thanks.

Bek, I will check out the expressive language disorder too. I really appreciate all the ideas.